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Today (or rather, in China, yesterday) is the fortieth anniversary of the start of the Cultural Revolution. Some of you know quite a bit about this ten-year span in China's modern history, some have an inkling, and some don't really know anything about it.

really believe in, if only because it's extremely difficult (I would say, almost impossible) to remain completely objective to a subject. And the Cultural Revolution is a very touchy subject, depending on where you're from.

To many people who study the Cultural Revolution, it's a very interesting, limited span of time in history and all the things that happened before, during, and after, are the subjects of intense debate. There's no doubt that Madame Mao had a hand in inflaming the worst, but whether Mao himself had any place in it is a matter of heated debate and I suspect it always will be. The Cultural Revolution was a heady time in China's modern history. Everything that had once defined the Chinese family, Chinese culture, Chinese people, were swept away in the tide of change. From 1966-1976, China effectively stagnated

From my grandparent's point of view, this was one of the worst things to ever happen. They had exited mainland China in 1942, literally weeks before the Communist Party took over, and fled to Taiwan with the remnants of the Kuomingtang Army. Both my grandfather and grandmother left behind family members and that proved to be tragic. During the Cultural Revolution, members of my grandfather's family were tortured because the family had been wealthy landowners. Several were permanently disabled from the torture. Everything was stripped. My grandfather passed away before he could ever return to seem them again and in the weeks leading up to his death, that was one of his greatest regrets.

From my parent's point of view, the Cultural Revolution was a great waste, especially to my mother. She hates the fact that so much of China's history and culture were completely annihilated during the revolution. I suppose that this can't be quite understood, but if you've ever visited the National Palace Museum, one of the premier museums of Chinese artifacts from the dynastic era and the ancient times, it might be understandable. The museum is fairly sizable, but at any one time, only a tenth of their collection is on display. During the civil war in China, the KMT had taken the treasures around with them to prevent them from falling into the hands of the Japanese Imperial Army. Now, the total amount of artifacts they took from the Forbidden Palace ranges. I've read ten percent, and I think that's a fair assessment.

Now. Ten percent of the China's cultural artifacts from the Forbidden Palace are in Taiwan. Only ten percent. And that's only from the Palace. The scores of places around China?

Destruction. Because of the idea that anything old China was a representation of everything wrong, the Red Guards were very earnest in destroying what they could. Anything from Ming Dynasty plates to scrolls to religious figures such as Guan Yin.

And that, for me, is the crux. When I think about it, I feel the sense of loss my mother does. Over four thousand years of history was shattered and scattered in only ten years. Ten years, and so much that had once defined China was sent to the fires or smashed on the floors. I don't pretend to be objective about it (though I can be surprisingly neutral in class... once upon a long, long time ago) because it's very hard.

Date: 2007-04-25 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilysnape.livejournal.com
Hmm wow that's some family past! It's sad what they all did to China. :( Is it still like that today? I don't know much about the Cultural Revolution I'm afraid.

Date: 2007-04-26 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demeter918.livejournal.com
China today is so radically different from China of 1966, that I'm boggled. Everywhere is different, but the amount they've changed since even 1995 is sometimes weird. Everytime I'm in Shanghai, something major has changed. I once visited with only two months in between and a couple new buildings had sprung up in my neighborhood alone. I kept thinking I was walking down the wrong street because of those things. ;) And though they've indicated that our area won't be changed, in that there won't be any more new tall buildings so we can keep our view, I doubt that'll happen. Shanghai is just growing too fast.

Date: 2007-04-25 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toriru4ever.livejournal.com
I've only heard of it superficially but I think it is sad that China lost so much of it's cultural wealth through that brief revolution :(
Ancient China rocks!
I think I'll have to make a trip to China someday (maybe when you're there :)

Date: 2007-04-26 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demeter918.livejournal.com
I should be there the year after next. ;)

Ancient China is really gorgeous, and you can still see parts of it if you travel to the really rural areas. Of course, very people actually go because it's so difficult to get to and so remote. It was in China that I realized just how vast the planet is, and with our planes and cars and high-speed trains, it's weird to imagine that people used to travel only by foot and horse and cart.

Date: 2007-04-26 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akujunkan.livejournal.com
Amen to that. I obviously don't have the deep connection to the culture that you or your family possess, but when I think about how carefully those items--scrolls, books, rubbings, porcelain, whatever--where tended to over the centuries, how they made it that far and then disappeared in a decade, it's just such an unbelievable shame. (I feel similarly about the destruction of Mayan codecies & Mayan and Incan artwork at the hands of Christian conquistadores, and the wanton destruction of mummies for snake oil medicines and yes, steam train fuel in Egypt.) And those aren't even the human loses.

Incidentally, what do you think about Mao's role? And have you read the new(ish) Jung/Halliday biography about him?

Date: 2007-04-26 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demeter918.livejournal.com
That's what I think; it's like you kept and carefully polished this lovely, beautiful plate that your ancestors passed down from generation to generation and then you just threw it on the ground to shatter for no reason other than someone told you that it was subversive. How can a darn plate be subversive?

My grandfather had all these wonderful, wonderful things that he'd brought out to America and the bank we kept them at had been robbed. I remember my grandfather's face when he heard about it and it was like he spent all that energy to protect and preserve them and some asshole went and took it all away because he or she needed money. If he hadn't sold it when they were first in Taiwan and struggling to live, I doubt he'd ever sell it. FURGH. It still makes me so mad!

I have read the new biography. I'm not sure how I feel about Jung's take. Have you read Wild Swans? It details her life in China until she left for the UK. There's quite a bit of history in regards to her feelings on Mao.

I suppose if I'd read it as someone's personal account, it was an amazing read... but I could never see it as an academic text. There were too many examples of unnamed sources, or rather, unverifiable sources. Like, "this friend of Mao's said, "..."" but names aren't given, so it's difficult to see what is or isn't an embellishment.

=/ Not sure about it. I loved the book, but I have my own feelings on Mao, and while they're not friendly, they're not the hatred that emanates from this book either. I don't know. It's almost impossible for me to define my feelings because I do agree with much of it. But I felt like it also reduced the roles of people such as Jiang Qing and Wen Bo... though, interestingly enough, it does bring Zhou Enlai into a less than flattering air. He was seen as one of the more moderate influences and Jung did seem to sympathize with him, but she didnt' reduce him to the kindly grandfather role that so many have.

Date: 2007-04-27 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akujunkan.livejournal.com
Exactly! I'd studied the Cultural Revolution on and off since 7th grade, but the enormity of it never really got through to me until my Chinese Painting courses, where we were constantly reading commentaries on famous pieces by later artists, and the professor was like, "So while we still have an idea of what such-and-such looked like, it was destroyed in the CR after having survived through six centuries." Ugh.

That is just horrid about your grandfather's possessions. Were they in any way documented? Because they're probably still kicking around in the art/antiques world and if you can prove that they were yours, you have the legal right to get them back (just like with works stolen during the Holocaust).

My ancestors fought in the Civil War, and one of them served as an Aide-de-Camp to General Grant. Sent letters to my g.g. grandmother describing Grant, camp life, battles, everything. My grandmother loaned them to a museum for someone's research and lo and behold! they "disappeared." One of my goals in life is to track them down and return them to my family.

I've read Wild Swans several times and really enjoy it, but I was hoping her Mao bio would be more scholarly. Like you, I found it to be pretty tabloid-rag in tone. Not that there's anything wrong with bringing that sort of thing into the light if it's true, but I was disappointed by the lack of concrete sourcing. I can certainly see Mao abusing power in those ways, but I can also see how someone angry enough at him (or just looking for a little amusement) would make up all sorts of horrid things to say now that he's safely dead, just for the hell of it, because there's no way to verify it or trace it back to its source.

I think Zhou gets cut a lot of slack because he was so instrumental during Nixon's visits in the 70s. But anyone who survived for that long as high up the chain as he did, I still had to have been pretty culpable, overall.

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